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Indian history is 7000 year old.

Living with fabricated history


Where do you begin looking at fabricated history?
The Jew says God made the world 4,000 years ago at 7.30 in the morning
Indians say history of India is 3,000 years
Chinese say the name China is of Ch'in who lived 2,250 years ago -- Civilisation China is 6,000 years
-- your West civilisation is 200 years.
Man in Pyongyang said to me the Great Wall of China was built to contain Great Nation Korea -- your knife and fork is development of our chopstick.

The living World is 5,000m years -- we are part of the living world.
Written record goes back 12,000 years.
Stories of Oral Ages -- ballads like Mahabharata Gesar Iliad Odyssey talk of Lions -- how long since Lions roamed Eurasia?
That Hindi epic Mahabharata sounds like two words undrstood in Polish MAHA-kill BRATA-brother -- kill brother?
Adam and Eve -- that must have came to us from Ages when the World was warm -- all that was needed was Fig Leaf.

So where do we begin looking at Fabricated History?

Yet Fabricated History is real -- it is in daily use.

Karl Marx FRAUD -- the Jew Karl Marx turned the anti-monarchist wave into anti-burgeois wave -- saved the monarchy by FRAUD -- got Arab Land of Palestine in payment for services rendered HM The Queen and her Descendants.
Karl Marx FRAUD because he was Jew and Jew is born FRAUD?
Cannot be! The Jew is born naked like me and you
-- then what makes the Jew FRAUD and me and you pure?

Beijing guide takes me to see palace.
I am fascinated with its beauty -- till I read in history books that Ch'in burned books buried literati alive. Why did Ch'in burned the books? Why did Ch'in buried literati alive?
Why did Ch'in fabricate history?
What did Ch'in want to hide burning books bury literati alive fabricate history?
What was it Ch'in didn't want us to know?

Books tell us that by tradition the Chinese would put living man in hole in the ground bury him alive build Han house over him. Why? Why? Why?
Is that how China became One Race -- India multirace polytheist?

I am climbing the Great Wall of China and thinking -- if by tradition the Chinese would bury living man alive for fundation of his house -- how many living men women brothers sisters Mothers Babies did the Ch'in buried alive for his Han house? And Why?
For what reason for there must have been reason -- but what?

And who were the men women brothers sisters Mothers with Babies that Ch'in buried alive to make fundation for his Great Wall of Ch'in? Were they Long Nose Indians speaking Sanscrit? Were they Long Nose Hunters reading the alphabeta scytale? Were they the Great Nation Koreans my Pyongyang friend was talking about? Eskimo maybe? Who? Why?

Then the Living World that was doing seasonal migration up Cold North to reproduce for millions of years migrating South-North to reproduce to evolve
-- what happened to the Millions of Years of Living World when Ch'in closed the migrating pass at Ordos?

Who were the officers -- the faithful and obedient servants that did all this for emperor Ch'in?
Were they the ones Ch'in immortalised in Terra Cotta Warriors?

And what happened to the Survivors of Ch'in Holocaust?
Did the disperse and took over the rest of the world? Is thats why India today? Alphabeta universal Keyboard?

Fabricated history? romantic fiction? or fact?

Soon millions will be watching Olympic Games 2008.
Admiring palaces -- climbing the Great Wall -- fascinated as I was fascinated -- and thinking
Why did they bury men women Mothers Babies for fundation of the Great Wall?

Was it to stop pregnent women going Warm South to give birth? Was it to stop Long Nose men going back to their place of Birth?

Millions of years of fabritated history? romantic fiction? -- or fact?

Hi,

I would like to share two presentations of mine (pictures and words) about the role of Women in Ancient India and more specifically, the Temples.

They are at;

http://riveroflife.be/devdasis
and
http://riveroflife.be/lingaraj

Hope you enjoy them,

Caraf





Women of the Temple
The Devdasis of Ancient India

Women are not foolish or helpless creatures.

In ancient India women were respected and on par with men in every aspect of daily life. Later on, various imperialistic cultures brought their versions of how the female sex is to be treated into the sub-continent and caused quite a clash of values. For example, the saree, which was and still is the most respected traditional wear was called 'revealing' and even 'vulgar' by the other cultures. The confusion caused by people's trying to adapt to these new cultures has resulted in a society that is divided in its opinions and which in many cases took to double-standards to survive the times.

Not all of the institutions of ancient India have survived. Especially not those which could find no 'middle path' to walk.

One afternoon in school in an otherwise boring history lesson a little paragraph in my text book caught my attention. It was about how a british viceroy in India (during the British rule in India) was instrumental in having the Devadasi tradition of the temples of India banned. I asked my teacher what the Devdasi tradition was, and she said, "Devadasis are girls who are made to live in the temple and serve God only. They are married to God." "Like nuns?" I asked. "Yes," she said, "except the devdasis didn't just worship God in the temples, they also knew a lot of the ancient arts of healing and they used to serve the people who came to them for help - many times this included sex."

I considered it very cruel that a girl should be 'married to a God in a temple' and have sex with strangers for the rest of her life.

I decided to find out about the tradition for myself. It's taken a long time to find out the little I know, very few people are willing to talk about the tradition because of its infamous reputation with the British who called it 'temple prostitution'.

The Devadasis. 'Servants of God'. Temple-women. Courtesans. Prostitutes. Lets just look at the facts as I found them.

The picture below is the central part of one of the wheels of the sun temple at Konark, Orissa. It shows a day in the life of a woman of the temple.

The day is divided into eight 'pahars' or what in bible times used to be called 'watches'. For example, Jesus was taken to Pontius Pilate during the second watch of the night, which means it was somewhere past midnight. The 'pahar's are counted from sunrise to sunrise.





In the sculpture above you will see on the top right hand side, at the first 'pahar' a woman of the temple, waking up and stretching. Then she spends time with her children and family. Then she is shown horse-riding. After that she is shown speaking to people, in a position of authority or teacher. After that she spends time alone resting. The final 2 pahars of the day, that's about six hours, were spent making love.

The central sculpture represents the 'purpose' of the whole cycle of activity, or the 'summary' or the 'point of it all'. It holds together the spokes of the wheel, and simply shows her teaching the people as they stand respectfully learning from her.



Here, we have this Devdasi, demonstrating hair care (look at the length of her hair!) with the use of a certain kind of leaf (see the sculptures of leaves above her head). I was pretty curious to know what leaf that was but I haven't found out yet. When I do, I'll be sure to put it in here.

So they used to teach and demonstrate the care of the body.


Here we see two of the Maharis (the 'Devadasis' in this part of the land, Orissa, were called 'Maharis' which means 'great woman').

Here the two of them are shown looking over, or teaching, a woman standing with her feet apart, over a fire of coals, the smoke going up her legs to her body. My guide, Narain, (I will show you his picture in a little while), said that this was a custom women did after they had delivered a baby. The fire included herbs of a special kind which helped the mother get back to normal life really quickly, 'just like a young woman, with full strength and no infection or illness at all'.

"How do you know this?" I asked Narain. He lowered his voice to a whisper, "a woman of the temple... in my village... not far from here, she used to help women in their women's problems.. she taught the women and they still practice some of the treatments when they need it. You should see how strong and beautiful the mothers in my village are."

So the women of the temple helped women in matters like sexual health and child-birth and so on. I found more sculptures where they were teaching women how to deal with issues like vaginal infections, lack of interest in sex, and in one case, showing a girl how to write a love letter! Wow!

Note: An interesting detail in the picture above - little angels are shown blessing or inspiring the Devdasi on the left. Obviously the sculptor was trying to say "they had guidance from above in helping women with their problems".



Here they are smiling over and encouraging a young romantic couple. The lady on the right is again demonstrating the use of herbs in hair health... does it have something to do with the romantic youngsters in the center? It's quite possible! *wink

In the sculpture above the lady on the left is shown carrying a baby while the one on the right is shown dancing with joy. The woman in the middle of the sculpture is writing or teaching something. From dancing to looking after children, they did it all themselves as well as taught other women.

As you are probably already aware, classical Indian dancing is no small matter. An art so deeply rooted in scientific knowledge of the inter-play of the elements of the universe, life itself... it takes years to learn, and is so highly evolved it demands mastery over the details.

The women of the temples of India are responsible for us still having the 5000 and more year old dances preserved almost intact for us. They practised and taught dancing in the temples for centuries, and when forced by the British to go underground, they still continued teaching whoever would learn, daring to defy the law at the time to preserve their beloved and powerful art.



Lovers kissing! Smiling and kissing at the same time! This is one of my most favorite picures ever. The statues still pulse with life, I was almost scared to touch them.. for fear of disturbing them.

Above over the whole scene, is a woman of the temple and below right in the center too. Watching the whole scene from a swing.

The meaning conveyed here is that they encouraged or 'played cupid' maybe... or watched over lovers.



Here they are shown helping people be friends! Making peace maybe?

The two 'friends' in the center of the picture have the women of the temple on either side. The woman at the right end of the picture is carrying a scroll! That shows the use of scripture or ancient texts of learning in their counselling of people.


In this sculpture they are shown standing on either side of a couple talking and making love. Here they are shown with serpent hoods over them and around them, to symbolize the 'wisdom of the serpent'. Serpents in ancient times in nearly all cultures, were considered to have the wisdom of God. Jesus said 'be as wise as serpents'... the book of Ezekiel in the Bible speaks of 'holy serpents in coals of fire of the presence of God'.

Once again, the Devadasis are shown to have divine and profound inspiration and wisdom in helping people in their daily lives.

On the extreme right side of the picture is a woman playing with a child. On the extreme left is a couple making love.

Somehow you can feel the peace and security in the whole scene. I think it shows how God blesses our daily lives with love.




Now appaerently it wasn't just women the women of the temple helped, it was the men too! In the scultpure above they are shown in the little box at the center bottom, performing a hernia operation on a man. And then on the left hand side he is shown after his hernia operation living life normally.


They are shown actually demonstrating sexual positions. Just about every source of information about life in ancient India mentions the great and important role the women of the temple had in teaching people how to make love. The Kama Sutra itself was dictated by a Woman of the temple. It is unfortunate that it has not been transalated freely enough to be actually the tool of empowerment it is meant to be. I do believe though that not very long from now, someone will give us a true transalation.



Narain, my invaluable guide at the Sun Temple, Konark (where most of my pictures were taken).

Over the years, I brought the subject of 'Devadasis' up with people who had travelled a lot across India and who had a chance of knowing about these things. One person said to me,"These days people are beginning to understand the value of having someone to talk to - a psycho-therapist... sometimes someone who will just listen... sometimes someone who out of learning or experience will know of a solution for you... sometimes someone who will love you unconditionally in the moment just because they believe that loving a human being physically or otherwise, is loving and serving God and they truly consider that their purpose. This is what the Devdasis did in India. This is why for eons they were highly respected and provided for; their home, the holiest of holy places, the temple itself. It is only in the last few hundred years when imperialists who could not comprehend the great service they provided to society denounced the tradition as immoral, that people have changed their opinions."

Customs, traditions, literature, music, dance.. even the temples and walls... I've looked at them all looking for suffering women living painful lives. I have searched with eagle eyes for evidence about what a terrible tradition the devdasi system was and how good it is that is abolished.

All I found though was a tradition in which women were so highly respected, people consulted them on all matters of life.

I found a tradition where sex was respected, and combined with healing arts in ways we have only begun to re-discover through research into psychology and esoteric arts that survived the dark ages and the subsequent cultures that supressed them. I found smiling women on the temple walls... healthy and full of life.

Not one suicide in one temple did I find recorded anywhere. In a society that's always been really hungry for gossip, and quite eager to talk about such things.. there was not ONE mention of a devdasi going hungry, or killing herself.

My one question however, always was, "What if she fell in love with someone? One man?"

The answer came to me from a surprising source. I was sitting at my mother's dining table telling her about how I've decided to go to back to classical dancing after a break of more than 14 years. She sighed and said, "My grandmother, she waited till you were born before she died. She came to me when you were born and she saw your feet and said, "She'll keep our classical dancing alive.. she'll dance you see, it's my blessing, I am supposed to give it to someone before I go, I'm giving it to your daughter, send her for classes as soon as you can."

"So my great grandmother was a classical dancer?!"

Mom shook out of her reverie and said, "Yes you might as well know. She was a temple dancer in Madurai (4000 yr old city of South India).

I jolted up straight. "WHAT! Then what happened?!"

Mom said, "She fell in love. The first rule of God is love, so they blessed her and conducted her marriage with the man she loved and that's how you are here today".

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Marriage. If you look at it technically, and look at the statistics and so on, it looks like one bound-to-end-in-suffering, foolish enterprise even 'cruel and abusuve' in some cases. Yet we all know it can be a most wonderful thing, a pillar of society and life. That's exactly what I have found the Devdasi tradition was to society.

A stronghold of knowledge and the arts, a refuge for many who had no where else to go, an unselfish service deserving the highest honor and respect.

I wondered some time back... "If they were so learned how come they have no voice whatsoever? How come we don't know their side of the story?"

I had to bite my lip over the last line because just then,it hit me like Newton's apple hit him, "the dances, the temple walls... the arts themselves.. they are the voice of the Devdasis... women are NOT foolish or helpless creatures... they can speak for themselves, and HOW!"

I don't know how relevant a tradition like the Devdasi tradition would be in our times... as always, it would have its pros and cons.

What I do know is, I am grateful to them for preserving for us, for me, those arts and dances that bring me so much joy, that make life so beautiful. For the temple walls that teach me about how joyful a thing making love is, and how holy. For teaching me that the human body is no less a carrier of the spirit of God than the water in the oceans or the stars in the sky.

Do they have a voice? Those thousands of women who were born and lived and died calling themselves by the name of God rather than a man? Who considered themselves no man's property, but one with God in loving and serving all who came to them?

I hear their voice in the footfalls of dancing girls, in the smiles of the sculptures... in the pictures I've taken in the temples. Indian classical dances and music are on tv.. music.. they're everywhere!

They're so deeply ingrained in the culture, we are unrecognisable without them... the Women of the Temple.
Everyone's mother, everyone's lover, everyone's teacher everyone's healer. So much like God.




See more pictures of the Devadasis, from the Lingaraj Temple, Bhuvaneswar


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